The punk poet John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) said "anger is an energy" in one of his songs and I agree. We are taught anger is always wrong and should be suppressed, but sometimes it is a cleansing fire that burns out all the (((dead wood))).
I suspect a lot of what passes for modernity in the West has been a lot about gilding the mass of men, to prevent us from periodically “renewing the tree of liberty with blood.”
True enough. The tree of liberty at this point though is as sickly as our people and needs a good deal more fertilizer than jooz. All a metaphor, mind you.
Nice post, William. Anger can mean a couple things:
1. Sometimes we get angry at deficiencies in other that we ourselves have. It's a mirroring effect; we hate in others what we hate in ourselves.
2. Sometimes anger can be clarifying. I was reading about parapsychology studies and one of the interesting things pointed out was that one's accuracy in parapsychology predictions went up substantially if one was feeling passionate about something, if one was emotional. I thought that was an interesting thing to note...
3. Sometimes anger is just anger at injustice, we all feel it sometimes.
So when we get angry, it's good afterwards to step back and ask why did we get angry, was it really about what triggered us or was it about ourselves? It's not always clearcut, either, but it's a good starting point...
Agreed and a thoughtful response. People too often get angry about some not very important thing, never reflecting on where that anger is really coming from, and then using that sort of anger to not get angry about what really matters and needs to change.
As I mentioned before, fascinating enough, I had never even heard of this Vox Day person prior to your blog. Now as it regards anger and rightiousness that I understand that full well. Lately I''ve felt like there are a lot of thieving assholes around me, and I have been contemplating this.
But what would be the righteous response? I don't want them dead. How do I create a response that is just for a new world?
That is a challenging question Amy, especially given your circumstances.i assume the thieving assholes are drawn for a reason. If they perceive you as a target I imagine you will have to dissuade them, give them pause?
That is a good question for us all, as part of the deconstruction of the West and America seems to be the proliferation of the collapse of taboos globally. I know there is a feeling among some that some new, greater consciousness is dawning, but I suspect if that is true at all we still have to go through a gauntlet to get there.
I am relieved this morning. Finally heard from my best friend who has a house in a neighborhood between Asheville and Swannanoa. It took her a week to get out. She was lucky, she gets bottled spring water in 5 gallon containers and had just gotten a delivery before the storm hit. She was able to give her neighbors drinking water and her house still has running water so there was a place for people to wash up. She told me how the neighborhood came together to share resources to survive. Her husband and in laws in Charlotte found a route for her to leave and she managed to drive around almost in circles to get out. Her neighbors are watching her property while she reunites with her husband (who was on a business trip when this happened).
I get so pissed when I see these reaction videos with people saying that it was good so many trump supporters were upended. Say what? I spent 10 days in Asheville with my friend back in 2021. Had a fine dinner at the Red Stag after seeing the Biltmore (after she snuck me in the back of her car like we were crashing a drive in movie because she only had one pass, LOL). The place is hippie central. Very blue and progressive. In fact, a little too progressive for me: she was always trying to get me to move out there and while I found it a good place to visit, it was just a bit granola for this grouchy old punk. So I suspect if anyone thought this would be a boon for Harris, they would be guessing wrong. I can't think of too many people on the ground of that state who think this is OK.
I suppose temporal power is catnip to the otherwise powerless. I hate to keep bringing up Diddy, but he has come to symbolize the empty soullessness of power for powers sake. Is there any merit in the ability to fuck your friend's wives? I suppose to the powerless it sounds like a good deal, but what profit it a man to gain the world, etc. It just propagates a world of that kind of power and those who will do anything to prop it up to get the scraps from the table. It is amazing how cheaply some will sell their soul and this is becoming increasingly apparent in real time. This is the revelation. The veils are being drawn. Do we like what we see?
There is going to be righteous anger. I know some do not want violence, nor do I, but there has to be a threat. These people are not just gonna go away after weaponizing everything against us. We have to be bigger than they are. I do not invoke morality or spirituality lightly in this cause. The revolution is in the heart. The knowledge that, using a christian metaphor, we are all sinners of some stripe or another, but there is a difference between human foibles and the kind of industrialized disregard and use of others as means to an end. Those who have sold their souls to this Devil had better be quaking in their boots. Perhaps we can not totally judge, but we can discern and discriminate. It is time to take the power back. We'll see how it goes....
Well said. Never been to Asheville but many an equivalent on the west coast/Sedona. I preferred the conservative Oregon coast. My heart goes out to all in the Appalachias though, my fellow Americans, disregarded and dismissed by so many on the left and in the deep state.
I live in a sort of 'fly over' zone between two crazy liberal cities. I'm quite content be the 'weird' one here I find my relatively conservative neighbors more reliable company than the increasingly maddened (what were once called ) liberals who have no more liberality than the Red Guard.
I was listening to an interview with David Icke and he brought up something very interesting about the insights he was gaining through his spiritual awakening. One of those things was that to transcend this world and be able to truly use energy to change one had to get rid of the defining labels of 'who you are as a human' and observe it from the outside more often. I see what is being currently cultivated in this county and indeed, the world, is an almost inversion of oneself into a litany of labels. I am this, I am that. It is so spiritually limiting and I suspect that is on purpose to no longer see beyond one's circumstance into a larger realm that contains real power for change.
Am I sticking my head in the sand when I say I'm glad I don't let notifications send to my phone, and hsd no idea who/what this Vox etc was,and that I gad no idea there was a war waged against one of my favorite substack writers (to my own disgrace, I haven't yet controlled all my reactions stemming from my many planets that reside with Mars)
Hell hath no fury, it's said...and I am a woman who's constantly finding her training stressed.
On my X I posted a delightful meme I found, which both defies the notion that we Appalachians do not read, and exemplifies our growing mindset here in the southern mtns...
" It was the fuck around of times. It was the find out of times."
The Humiliation Ritual notches up: from the small rural East Palestine,to the Dem occupied Lahaina ,to the lower and middle class rural Appalachian South- whom they taunt for a reason.
So much to say about this wonderful post William. Thank you for expressing your anger!
I appreciate your contemplative and introspective nature. It has been a pleasure to read your self=assessment as you synthesize the larger events that help decipher the source of your anger and place within the context of the current regime insanity.
I have been guilty of using anger as my source of power. I try to keep it controlled. The older I get, the easier that is. I learned to use controlled anger in taekwondo. I have a deep and limitless pool of it, apparently. I did very well in TKD. I preferred to fight with the men, cause I made girls cry.
My anger kept me determined and got me through chiropractic school.
I growl at the gym, a LOT. I always hope that everyone has their ear buds in and can't hear me. Anger helps me lift heavy, really heavy, for my size and age.
Thank you for showing this to me. I had not read it. I have a bit to say about it.
Reading his piece, my first thought was, he has no real info for crime after 2020, when we know 10-20mil crossed the border 2021-2024. My second thought: His only assertion about crime down recently comes from the FBI, which everybody but Hanania knows apparently, the big liberal cities and a number of liberal states stopped sharing crime info, for obvious reasons. And, does Hanania really think the FBI is reliable? Does he not know crime is only down relative to the peak of Covid? It is much higher relative to the norm, despite cooking the books.
Third, as I read I thought, could Hanania be more indifferent to those preyed upon by illegal immigrants? I kept trying to imagine him making this argument to someone harmed by illegal immigrants. Fourth, is Hanania entirely ignorant of the maybe 10mil who have crossed the border the border control did not catch, who definitely have criminal intent? Fifth I thought, do you have any reservations at all Hanania about flooding America with 10-15 military aged male migrants, like a mercenary army for the Feds? Sixth, I thought, it is true, Hanania is a neoliberal. Seventh I thought, he is a serial contrarian, without any solid foundation moral or ethical. If he is not careful he is going to end up without any real allies. Eighth, Hanania, they are all criminals, they crossed the border illegally.
Too bad, I was not really familiar with him until his recent turn toward embracing the globalists, lol. I missed his heyday, which apparently he is now embarrassed about.
I won’t answer for him but for me it was definitely a worthy read. I come at this subject more from your side than his; I think immigration should be tightly controlled and in current times curtailed. I’m what Hanania would call honest though because I believe that this should be primarily for cultural reasons, not criminal or economic ones. I hadn’t thought or looked into the crime aspect much, but unless he’s using fake date I thought he made a persuasive argument as to why immigrants commit less crimes (yes the illegal ones are committing one by definition by crossing the border). His point about newcomers attracting violence that would’ve gone to the natives was very interesting as well. I presume his data is real so I focused on the arguments; if it isn’t someone will call him on it as this will get a large readership.
His data is real, but his assumptions are wrong imo. I agree, the concern is less crime, then the fact that none of these immigrants have any cultural relationship to the bill of rights, they threaten to turn America into a one party state, and the end of the Constitution. Also, should things destabilize because of war or economics, many of these immigrants are going to go cartel. Open borders also presume there are State aligned terror cells, threatening mass violence. So really, despite his statistics, I cannot take Hanania very seriously.
Not that you deserve an answer, but I distinctly remember the time he was basically like, If you want to be more sigma like you could build a library full of leather covered books. I’m sure I could find plenty more such examples if I cared.
"Their SSH guru? Vox Day is a guru? The thing Zaklog attacked me about was, I said Vox suggests his people should act more like Sigmas. Zaklog demanded I show him where Vox said that. I said it was implied, “he calls it Sigma Game, he claims to be one, he wouldn't be sellin’ it or writin’ about it if he didn't.” Vox Day might not agree but that is what gurus do, sell an ideal. He is in the business of selling the ideal of the sigma and the SSH, he is in the business of engaging young men to focus on their life and to get it together based on the SSH, Sigma is something like the ideal, whether Vox wants to admit it or not.
He is a guru/leader of men and his warriors attacked me because Vox Day is their mentor and they believe in his system, they would not stand by while I attacked him, no matter my argument.
How do I know Vox Day is a guru? It takes one to know one."
Unfortunately this section reads as a projection, if you did not intend to be then I have misunderstood. The reply on the request for evidence was just, "It's how I would do it, it's what I would do". Following that the link you posted about your own history as a guru is a serious of instructional essays explicitly about how to be like you and your life. There are no such essays on Vox's blog and most of the entries are commentary about other people and invitations to comment on those other people. It doesn't match in content, target of discussion or purpose.
The secondary evidence you posted is that the name of the substack means he's a guru. I don't see how that follows as an argument. Particularly when the form of your argument is begging the question over and over.
"My conclusion is that Vox is a guru"
"Why?"
"He wouldn't do anything he does if he wasn't."
"How does that follow?"
"Ah, this is proof. I am now being attacked, no matter what my argument is"
Whether someone is more aggressive in their language or not this has been the constant exchange. Any request for evidence is, "trust me bro" and "the demand that I support my statements is an attack on me". I mean it's certainly fine for you to say you don't need to defend your statements, we're not in a college course or anything, but to mindread conclusions from people that they did not say and then present it as a formal proof based on your personal feelings is a bit much innit?
The point of gurus is not about ‘be like me’ but rather, ‘use this teaching to become more yourself.’ The Octagon Society is a lot older than I am. The point of it is to turn the garbage of the self, ie bad habits, trauma, ill training into the gold of the life you want for yourself, lead into gold, spiritual alchemy. I call Vox a guru because that is essentially what he is saying, use the SSH to be more true to yourself. But he does not call his site SSH Game, he calls it Sigma Game, and that is why I say Sigma is the focus and the ideal.
Someone who is a guru who says be more like me is more like a charismatic cult leader.
The punk poet John Lydon (Johnny Rotten) said "anger is an energy" in one of his songs and I agree. We are taught anger is always wrong and should be suppressed, but sometimes it is a cleansing fire that burns out all the (((dead wood))).
I suspect a lot of what passes for modernity in the West has been a lot about gilding the mass of men, to prevent us from periodically “renewing the tree of liberty with blood.”
And yes the Catholics in the middle ages knew exactly what to do with decadent Jew exploiters.
True enough. The tree of liberty at this point though is as sickly as our people and needs a good deal more fertilizer than jooz. All a metaphor, mind you.
(((modernity)))
Nice post, William. Anger can mean a couple things:
1. Sometimes we get angry at deficiencies in other that we ourselves have. It's a mirroring effect; we hate in others what we hate in ourselves.
2. Sometimes anger can be clarifying. I was reading about parapsychology studies and one of the interesting things pointed out was that one's accuracy in parapsychology predictions went up substantially if one was feeling passionate about something, if one was emotional. I thought that was an interesting thing to note...
3. Sometimes anger is just anger at injustice, we all feel it sometimes.
So when we get angry, it's good afterwards to step back and ask why did we get angry, was it really about what triggered us or was it about ourselves? It's not always clearcut, either, but it's a good starting point...
Agreed and a thoughtful response. People too often get angry about some not very important thing, never reflecting on where that anger is really coming from, and then using that sort of anger to not get angry about what really matters and needs to change.
As I mentioned before, fascinating enough, I had never even heard of this Vox Day person prior to your blog. Now as it regards anger and rightiousness that I understand that full well. Lately I''ve felt like there are a lot of thieving assholes around me, and I have been contemplating this.
But what would be the righteous response? I don't want them dead. How do I create a response that is just for a new world?
That is a challenging question Amy, especially given your circumstances.i assume the thieving assholes are drawn for a reason. If they perceive you as a target I imagine you will have to dissuade them, give them pause?
That is a good question for us all, as part of the deconstruction of the West and America seems to be the proliferation of the collapse of taboos globally. I know there is a feeling among some that some new, greater consciousness is dawning, but I suspect if that is true at all we still have to go through a gauntlet to get there.
I am relieved this morning. Finally heard from my best friend who has a house in a neighborhood between Asheville and Swannanoa. It took her a week to get out. She was lucky, she gets bottled spring water in 5 gallon containers and had just gotten a delivery before the storm hit. She was able to give her neighbors drinking water and her house still has running water so there was a place for people to wash up. She told me how the neighborhood came together to share resources to survive. Her husband and in laws in Charlotte found a route for her to leave and she managed to drive around almost in circles to get out. Her neighbors are watching her property while she reunites with her husband (who was on a business trip when this happened).
I get so pissed when I see these reaction videos with people saying that it was good so many trump supporters were upended. Say what? I spent 10 days in Asheville with my friend back in 2021. Had a fine dinner at the Red Stag after seeing the Biltmore (after she snuck me in the back of her car like we were crashing a drive in movie because she only had one pass, LOL). The place is hippie central. Very blue and progressive. In fact, a little too progressive for me: she was always trying to get me to move out there and while I found it a good place to visit, it was just a bit granola for this grouchy old punk. So I suspect if anyone thought this would be a boon for Harris, they would be guessing wrong. I can't think of too many people on the ground of that state who think this is OK.
I suppose temporal power is catnip to the otherwise powerless. I hate to keep bringing up Diddy, but he has come to symbolize the empty soullessness of power for powers sake. Is there any merit in the ability to fuck your friend's wives? I suppose to the powerless it sounds like a good deal, but what profit it a man to gain the world, etc. It just propagates a world of that kind of power and those who will do anything to prop it up to get the scraps from the table. It is amazing how cheaply some will sell their soul and this is becoming increasingly apparent in real time. This is the revelation. The veils are being drawn. Do we like what we see?
There is going to be righteous anger. I know some do not want violence, nor do I, but there has to be a threat. These people are not just gonna go away after weaponizing everything against us. We have to be bigger than they are. I do not invoke morality or spirituality lightly in this cause. The revolution is in the heart. The knowledge that, using a christian metaphor, we are all sinners of some stripe or another, but there is a difference between human foibles and the kind of industrialized disregard and use of others as means to an end. Those who have sold their souls to this Devil had better be quaking in their boots. Perhaps we can not totally judge, but we can discern and discriminate. It is time to take the power back. We'll see how it goes....
Well said. Never been to Asheville but many an equivalent on the west coast/Sedona. I preferred the conservative Oregon coast. My heart goes out to all in the Appalachias though, my fellow Americans, disregarded and dismissed by so many on the left and in the deep state.
I live in a sort of 'fly over' zone between two crazy liberal cities. I'm quite content be the 'weird' one here I find my relatively conservative neighbors more reliable company than the increasingly maddened (what were once called ) liberals who have no more liberality than the Red Guard.
I was listening to an interview with David Icke and he brought up something very interesting about the insights he was gaining through his spiritual awakening. One of those things was that to transcend this world and be able to truly use energy to change one had to get rid of the defining labels of 'who you are as a human' and observe it from the outside more often. I see what is being currently cultivated in this county and indeed, the world, is an almost inversion of oneself into a litany of labels. I am this, I am that. It is so spiritually limiting and I suspect that is on purpose to no longer see beyond one's circumstance into a larger realm that contains real power for change.
Am I sticking my head in the sand when I say I'm glad I don't let notifications send to my phone, and hsd no idea who/what this Vox etc was,and that I gad no idea there was a war waged against one of my favorite substack writers (to my own disgrace, I haven't yet controlled all my reactions stemming from my many planets that reside with Mars)
Hell hath no fury, it's said...and I am a woman who's constantly finding her training stressed.
On my X I posted a delightful meme I found, which both defies the notion that we Appalachians do not read, and exemplifies our growing mindset here in the southern mtns...
" It was the fuck around of times. It was the find out of times."
The Humiliation Ritual notches up: from the small rural East Palestine,to the Dem occupied Lahaina ,to the lower and middle class rural Appalachian South- whom they taunt for a reason.
The Boot knows that which it does.
Yeah, you should not worry about Vox, he lives in Switzerland in a castle now, lol.
I restacked a similar meme.https://substack.com/@morgthorak/note/c-71125675
Paste that puppy up in notes and I'll restack it!
So much to say about this wonderful post William. Thank you for expressing your anger!
I appreciate your contemplative and introspective nature. It has been a pleasure to read your self=assessment as you synthesize the larger events that help decipher the source of your anger and place within the context of the current regime insanity.
I have been guilty of using anger as my source of power. I try to keep it controlled. The older I get, the easier that is. I learned to use controlled anger in taekwondo. I have a deep and limitless pool of it, apparently. I did very well in TKD. I preferred to fight with the men, cause I made girls cry.
My anger kept me determined and got me through chiropractic school.
I growl at the gym, a LOT. I always hope that everyone has their ear buds in and can't hear me. Anger helps me lift heavy, really heavy, for my size and age.
Thank you, and glad to hear this post helped make you of good cheer, lol!
Since you mentioned immigrant crime a couple times, thought I’d share this for your consideration: https://open.substack.com/pub/richardhanania/p/conservatives-are-lying-on-immigrant?r=k7sg9&utm_medium=ios
Thank you for showing this to me. I had not read it. I have a bit to say about it.
Reading his piece, my first thought was, he has no real info for crime after 2020, when we know 10-20mil crossed the border 2021-2024. My second thought: His only assertion about crime down recently comes from the FBI, which everybody but Hanania knows apparently, the big liberal cities and a number of liberal states stopped sharing crime info, for obvious reasons. And, does Hanania really think the FBI is reliable? Does he not know crime is only down relative to the peak of Covid? It is much higher relative to the norm, despite cooking the books.
Third, as I read I thought, could Hanania be more indifferent to those preyed upon by illegal immigrants? I kept trying to imagine him making this argument to someone harmed by illegal immigrants. Fourth, is Hanania entirely ignorant of the maybe 10mil who have crossed the border the border control did not catch, who definitely have criminal intent? Fifth I thought, do you have any reservations at all Hanania about flooding America with 10-15 military aged male migrants, like a mercenary army for the Feds? Sixth, I thought, it is true, Hanania is a neoliberal. Seventh I thought, he is a serial contrarian, without any solid foundation moral or ethical. If he is not careful he is going to end up without any real allies. Eighth, Hanania, they are all criminals, they crossed the border illegally.
Too bad, I was not really familiar with him until his recent turn toward embracing the globalists, lol. I missed his heyday, which apparently he is now embarrassed about.
I won’t answer for him but for me it was definitely a worthy read. I come at this subject more from your side than his; I think immigration should be tightly controlled and in current times curtailed. I’m what Hanania would call honest though because I believe that this should be primarily for cultural reasons, not criminal or economic ones. I hadn’t thought or looked into the crime aspect much, but unless he’s using fake date I thought he made a persuasive argument as to why immigrants commit less crimes (yes the illegal ones are committing one by definition by crossing the border). His point about newcomers attracting violence that would’ve gone to the natives was very interesting as well. I presume his data is real so I focused on the arguments; if it isn’t someone will call him on it as this will get a large readership.
His data is real, but his assumptions are wrong imo. I agree, the concern is less crime, then the fact that none of these immigrants have any cultural relationship to the bill of rights, they threaten to turn America into a one party state, and the end of the Constitution. Also, should things destabilize because of war or economics, many of these immigrants are going to go cartel. Open borders also presume there are State aligned terror cells, threatening mass violence. So really, despite his statistics, I cannot take Hanania very seriously.
There is no mandate of heaven.
Never was.
Simplify.
Simplify by dropping the prefixes, for example. Postmodernists are just modernists, neo-Marxists are just Marxists, and so on.
Hey jackass, you still haven't answered the question:
Where did Vox Day say (or imply) men should strive to be sigmas?
Where? Be specific.
Not that you deserve an answer, but I distinctly remember the time he was basically like, If you want to be more sigma like you could build a library full of leather covered books. I’m sure I could find plenty more such examples if I cared.
Cool. Where did he say that? Show me, please.
Do you understand how evidence works?
"Their SSH guru? Vox Day is a guru? The thing Zaklog attacked me about was, I said Vox suggests his people should act more like Sigmas. Zaklog demanded I show him where Vox said that. I said it was implied, “he calls it Sigma Game, he claims to be one, he wouldn't be sellin’ it or writin’ about it if he didn't.” Vox Day might not agree but that is what gurus do, sell an ideal. He is in the business of selling the ideal of the sigma and the SSH, he is in the business of engaging young men to focus on their life and to get it together based on the SSH, Sigma is something like the ideal, whether Vox wants to admit it or not.
He is a guru/leader of men and his warriors attacked me because Vox Day is their mentor and they believe in his system, they would not stand by while I attacked him, no matter my argument.
How do I know Vox Day is a guru? It takes one to know one."
Unfortunately this section reads as a projection, if you did not intend to be then I have misunderstood. The reply on the request for evidence was just, "It's how I would do it, it's what I would do". Following that the link you posted about your own history as a guru is a serious of instructional essays explicitly about how to be like you and your life. There are no such essays on Vox's blog and most of the entries are commentary about other people and invitations to comment on those other people. It doesn't match in content, target of discussion or purpose.
The secondary evidence you posted is that the name of the substack means he's a guru. I don't see how that follows as an argument. Particularly when the form of your argument is begging the question over and over.
"My conclusion is that Vox is a guru"
"Why?"
"He wouldn't do anything he does if he wasn't."
"How does that follow?"
"Ah, this is proof. I am now being attacked, no matter what my argument is"
Whether someone is more aggressive in their language or not this has been the constant exchange. Any request for evidence is, "trust me bro" and "the demand that I support my statements is an attack on me". I mean it's certainly fine for you to say you don't need to defend your statements, we're not in a college course or anything, but to mindread conclusions from people that they did not say and then present it as a formal proof based on your personal feelings is a bit much innit?
The point of gurus is not about ‘be like me’ but rather, ‘use this teaching to become more yourself.’ The Octagon Society is a lot older than I am. The point of it is to turn the garbage of the self, ie bad habits, trauma, ill training into the gold of the life you want for yourself, lead into gold, spiritual alchemy. I call Vox a guru because that is essentially what he is saying, use the SSH to be more true to yourself. But he does not call his site SSH Game, he calls it Sigma Game, and that is why I say Sigma is the focus and the ideal.
Someone who is a guru who says be more like me is more like a charismatic cult leader.