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Mrs S's avatar

We're in strange times. We know collapse is coming but we don't yet know how it will manifest.

I don't mind admitting that the prospect of economic collapse terrifies me. I have read enough accounts of the collapse of the USSR (and i did voluntary work there not long after the wall came down) and other places to know that I don't want to go through it.

And yet the Empire needs to fall.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

As hard and challenging as it is, the only way to deal with fear is to face it and work through it. One of the most frustrating things about the treatment of anarchy is that we have been conditioned to believe that when there is a collapse of order, then it is every man for himself and lawless murder and mayhem. That is a social Darwinian notion, that the rule is competition. But the fact is, the first thing we see in times of difficulty, is people coming together, making connections, building networks, rebuilding a market. They do not need any ruler to tell them to do that, they do not need to be ordered to do it, it simply naturally happens. Best now to be prepared to be one of those who helps out, and it sounds like you have experience in that regard.

As for the regime collapsing, that does not necessarily mean epic economic collapse. That of course is what they would like you to fear, that without their leadership the whole world would fall apart. But like everything they say and do these days, I suspect the opposite is true, that the regime collapsing could very well result in an economic boom, after there are not parasites like Larry Fink and Blackrock and the owners of the big banks feeding so rapaciously on so much of production.

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Alicen Grey's avatar

Thank you for the shout-out! I enjoyed your post "On Magic" and went to check out The Octagon Society. Synchronistically, I had been considering taking up a journaling practice, but hesitated for no discernable reason. But reading through O.S.A.'s use of journaling as an alchemical tool, inspired me to start. I already had great results from the journaling I did last night! Thanks for sharing your magick :)

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

John Michael Greer, who is the honorary head of the organization, has said spiritual alchemy training of the Octagon Society is some of the hardest work he has done, but also the most rewarding. Let us know if you have any questions. Keep up the great work!

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JO's avatar

This is the first post I've read on your stack. This is great stuff and well written. My thoughts are that we have 5-7 very challenging years ahead of us, but that freedom will win for the simple reason that the Woke and all their enablers are feeble. My interactions with them and what I see in independent news is that they are the classic bully. They strut around like they are the kings and queens of the world, but they can't stand on their own. They have no resilience. No strength. No commitment to anything except for destruction of everything around them because they think they can get away with it. The thing is though, if you punch them in the face (literally or figuratively), they take their ball home and cry to mama. When using the wrong pronoun is enough to make an entire movement hysterical, you know they don't have any legs to stand on. We need to start punching them back in the face. If we do, then the Woke movement will quickly come to an end.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

Thank you! But, maybe before punching them in the face, keep micro-aggressing them by asking questions they don't want to answer?

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INTJ Architect's avatar

Great stuff. I am going to have to go back and read everything in your stack.

Substack can be so annoying sometimes. It won't allow me to like or comment on your first post that you linked to, keeps on wanting me to subscribe, even though I am.

Cheers.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

Substack I get the feeling is growing faster than they can keep up with the tech. Also, as there is no general user fee, I imagine they are not cash flush. Also, I imagine they expend a lot of time and money defending against hackers from gov and Pharma etc.

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paul scott's avatar

Yes, William H. You would have received interest because people who are working towards freedom like you, like to see action more than words, and you have cut into the the action.

That is worth reading about and putting into our psyches as a part remedy for our lives nearthe swamp..

This business of extrcating ourselves from the toxic system is no easy feat. I have half accomplished it by living in a quiet place in Thailand where they laugh at you if you wear a mask.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

Thank you, and yes indeed, "extrcating ourselves from the toxic system is no easy feat."

If it was easy that toxic system would collapse within a week.

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thornburg's avatar

I was fascinated with the "We Need to Talk about Mr. Global" video. When I see people living in reality, trying to sort out this bizarre situation sentient beings find themselves in around the world, I settle right down. Sticking with Mussolini's definition of fascism--the merging of corporations with government, it's easy to see the situation we're facing. Sixteenth Century French had a solution--guillotines for the filthy rich.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

The problem with capital punishments like that French solution is, a lot of innocent people die too, some of whom are needed to restore the republic. Ben Franklin as ambassador to France had many allies in the 18th century who were intellectuals working to make a republic of France, and many of them were guillotined as the mob chanted, "The revolution needs no scientists!" Eventually the ones who start the guillotining get guillotined too. I would rather restore the rule of law and cut a few major players down to size to put the fear in the rest of the elite class, while dismantling a lot of the institutions that are the foundation of their parasitism.

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thornburg's avatar

Good point, William. You bring to mind what happened in Stalin's gulags. Eventually working class people were thrown in because standards for identifying the bourgeois went down and down. Plus I like your solution, too.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

You could be thrown in Stalin's gulags just because your neighbor said you didn't like Stalin, even if you thought Stalin was the greatest leader ever - because your neighbor coveted your shovel. They had to throw people in just to prove they were loyal to Stalin, or they might be thrown in. Some in the gulags, even if they were there because someone lied about them, still acted like they deserved to be there simply because their loyalty to the party was so strong.

Meanwhile all it took in America to convince people that gulags are a good idea is a fake pandemic. Most of these folks would deny they believed such, but something about this plandemic made people forget, the internet is a good reminder....

https://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2022/01/poll-45-of-dems-support-internment-camps-for-unvaccinated-59-support-home-lockdowns/

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thornburg's avatar

This brings up the 120,000 Japanese American men, women, children, newborn babies, and orphans unfortunately living on the left side of an imaginary line drawn after the Pearl Harbor attack, who were rounded up and thrown into concentration camps. This was Democrat Roosevelt's solution, obliterating habeas corpus for these people, including Karyl Matsumoto (former mayor of South San Francisco) who was a 2 month old orphan, and as she says: "Considered to be a threat to national security." Not to mention America's sprawling gulag of prisons, incarcerating 1.2 million. Add in ICE concentration camps imprisoning god-only-knows-how-many innocent people. Biden has opened concentration camps that Trump closed, and is not shy at all about throwing in unaccompanied children--just as Trump did.

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William Hunter Duncan's avatar

As for ICE, my guess is they are overwhelmed, and it is easier for Biden and company to maintain a few holding camps for migrants to placate Repubs, rather than get serious about border security and central and south American policy driving migrants here. My suspicion is the Biden Admin is otherwise turning a blind eye toward illegal immigration, because that is a pliant easily exploited labor force for many sectors of the economy particularly around corporate food production.

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thornburg's avatar

I agree. However I have to wonder exactly who is running the country--certainly not the person who is so mentally incapacitated that he can't function while on public display.

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Michi Birk's avatar

👍🏻💯 Insightful... had to listen to it 3x!

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